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The Lost tomb of Jesus- The Jesus Family Tomb- Discovery Channel -News Analysis
Year in and year out new theories debunking the claims of Christ appear just in time for Easter. This year lenting season the release is from James Cameron from the house of The “Terminator,” “Aliens” and “Titanic” .His latest flick is pure science fiction.
Hollywood has attacked and mocked the Christian faith through out this centuary. But whats different in this new release is the documentary makes a mockery of the archaeological profession. Christian faith is always open for attack and critisiation. I just remember about the Danish cartoonist of Prophet Mohammed. He has to go on exile to save his life. Critics say James Cameron has picked the right subject as its about Christianity, saving his life for next mega money making movie. What people forget is there is a recordable history of 2000 years for Christian faith not just in Jerusalam where all houses are built on graves but in the rest of the world too. You cannot just ridicule all the scriptures by shooting on air. This is not something new. In 1996, when the British Broadcasting Corp. aired a short documentary on the subject, archaeologists challenged the link to Jesus and his family. Amos Kloner, the first archaeologist to examine the site, said the idea fails to hold up to archaeological standards but makes for profitable television. The Plot This week the Discovery Channel, together with HarperSanFrancisco, announces the release of “The Jesus Family Tomb,” a television documentary and a book that aim to show that the tomb next door to Tova Bracha’s apartment, located in a nondescript suburb called East Talpiot, near the family plot of Jesus Christ. Spearheaded by a well-known TV director named Simcha Jacobovici, and produced by “Titanic” director James Cameron, “The Jesus Family Tomb” is—both in book and movie form—a slick and suspenseful narrative about the 1980 discovery of a first-century Jewish burial cave and the 10 bone boxes, or ossuaries, found therein.
With the help of statisticians, archeologists, historians, DNA experts, robot-camera technicians, epigraphers and a CSI expert from New York’s Long Island, Jacobovici puts together a case in which he argues that the bones of Jesus, Mary and Mary Magdalene, along with some of their lesser-known relatives, were once entombed in this cave. The filmmakers contend that the inscriptions on the boxes say Yeshua bar Yosef (Jesus son of Joseph), Maria (Mary), Yose (Joseph), Matia (Matthew), Mariamene e Mara (Maria the Master) and Yehuda bar Yeshua (Judah son of Jesus). They maintain that “Mariamene e Mara” is Mary Magdalene and that Yehuda bar Yeshua may be her son by Jesus. Leading archaeologists in Israel and the United States yesterday denounced the purported discovery of the tomb of Jesus as a publicity stunt.
The Ridiculous Publicity stunt
↑ We should note that the surviving six names are only six of many more who were buried in this family tomb. There may have been as many as 35. The six people whose names we have could have belonged to as many as four different generations. This is a large family tomb, which would certainly have been used for quite some time by the same family. We should not imagine a small family group. Some members of the family of Jesus we know lived in Jerusalem for only three decades (from the death of Jesus to the execution of his brother James in 62). None of our other evidence would suggest that there were so many of them as to require a tomb of this size.
↑ Jesus was a very common name at the time — Mary even more so. 48 percent of women living at the time were named Mary, Mariam or the Hebrew name Shlomzion. In addition, Jesus’ family was poor. Those who paid for the tomb were middle-class, at least. If Jesus’ family did have the cash, the family tomb would likely have been situated in Nazareth. After all, Jesus was known as Jesus of Nazareth.
↑ Jesus did not marry Mary Magdalene and nor did he have a son. If you had been Jesus and (for argument’s sake) had had a son, would you have named him Judas (same as Judah or Jude), like the man who betrayed you?. There is no historical evidence that Jesus was ever married or had a child.
↑ There are more than 900 buried tombs just like the “Jesus” tomb within a 2-mile radius of Talpiyot. For years, it was just another of the many tombs of ancient middle-class families who lived roughly in the time of Jesus. Two years earlier, Israeli archaeologist Amos Kloner was the first to find the tomb. He found the tomb and the ossuaries — the urns or vaults used to hold the bones of the dead — interesting but of no particular archaeological importance.Is someone next year going to make a documentary saying all those are of disciples of Jesus
↑ This was discovered in 1982, by Tova Bracha’s family. Why it took this much of time .This is making a mockery of the archaeological profession. If there was something important it could have been presented to a team of archeologist than in news conference and television.
↑ Most Christians believe Jesus’ body spent three days at the site of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem’s Old
City. The burial site identified in the documentary is in a southern Jerusalem neighborhood nowhere near the church.
↑ Simcha Jacobovici also said tests on the patina, or surface residue, of the “James Ossuary,” which surfaced in 2002, indicate that it also came from the Talpiyot tomb. Israeli authorities have pronounced the James Ossuary, which purportedly held the bones of a brother of Jesus, a forgery and are prosecuting its owner. Jacobovici, who made a 2003 Discovery Channel film about it, maintains it is real.
↑ There is no DNA evidence that this is the historical Jesus of Nazareth.
↑ The statistical analysis is untrustworthy
↑ The name “Jesus” was a popular name in the first century, appearing in 98 other tombs and on 21 other ossuaries.
↑ The earliest followers of Jesus never called him “Jesus, son of Joseph.”
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Daniel 
Post : 556
I’ve written a comprehensive rebuttal of the films claims. Please read it and decide for yourself whether or not the film claims are solid or a hoax.
You will find it at extremetheology.com
Proud Nasrani 203.200.35.310 66.150.210.290 not found
Post : 557
The necessity of fusion of cultures necesserily alter many valuable historical evidences. Were we, Nasaranies of Kerala, able to immune from the influence of west and our local neighbours we would have something different but very valuable to offer to the World related to any issue of Jesus. We never ever forget that Thomas knew the historical Jesus more than Paul who almost single handedly founded the western christianity.
Anoop
Post : 548
Commandable work.
Vick
Post : 549
Jacobovici is a liar and Cameron doesnot know what history means.
Peter
Post : 550
Great news. Discovery Channel is not airing the show in India. They have apologised to the Chrisitan Community in India.
Justin
Post : 552
Cameron just wants to make money by a new movie.He is taking the world for ransom for his greed.
Vincent
Post : 553
Good work and thanks for keeping us updated.
Thomas
Post : 551
It was easy to go through the points.Nice presentation.Keep up the good work.
Varghese
Post : 554
Israel govt is prosecuting the owner of Jacobovici’s earlier documnetary for forgery.This is just another fictional work for fame.
Catholic Secular Forum
Post : 546
”The Lost Tomb of Jesus’ hurts the sentiments in a pluralistic society and is an attempt for selfish profits and commercial gains or cheap publicity.We want the Discovery Channel to relent from broadcasting the documentary in India. We have lodged our complaint with the channels.
Proud Syrian Christian
Post : 544
great effort.
Gomes
Post : 545
Cameron sucks !!!
Vadakkan
Post : 543
Does Cameron or Discovery or anyone has the courage to take a documentary about the archeoligical findings on Propjet Mohammed or or any other religions.I bet !!!
Jose
Post : 558
Lost tomb of Jesus has now a place in the worlds most published controversies.
It failed miserably.
Joseph George 
Post : 559
Once I read this in the Biblical Archaeological Review. The Editor of that Review was not ready to endorse this “discovery”.
Though it disturbs a lot to read such hoaxes against the Lord, these things WILL keep on happening as it was already prophesied 2000 years ago by a prophet when Jesus was born:
“Behold, this One is set for the fall and rising up of many in Israel, and for a sign SPOKEN AGAINST;”(Luke 2:34).
He was born with the announcement of “good will among men”(Luke 2:14) but some men wanted to give ill will back to Him.
When we provide the best historical evidences in the 4 gospels they say that these are oral transmissions by a handful of Christians for their personal benefits and hence cannot be trusted. when we provide the best secular evidences they say these are additions or later interpolations by the Christian hypochrites and hence cannot be trusted. At the same time they do not doubt the historic account of Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Plato, Aristotle, Karl Marx, Charles Darwin…….!
Jesus Himself has described these people in the most apt words: “But to what shall I compare this generation? It is like little children sitting in the markets, and calling to their mates, and saying, We piped to you, and you did not dance; we mourned to you, and you did not wail. For John(the Baptist) came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, he has a demon. The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold, a gluttonous man and a wine drinker, and a friend of tax collectors, and of sinners”(Matth 11:16-19).
Whatever you do these skeptics have only one propaganda; ridicule!
One way this is for good because each time this happens, we are prompted to study further diligently to reassess our conviction which gets more and more established instead of shaken.
At the same time it does not become Christian to hate these people. Reading through Luke 9:51-56 is very good. Jesus has a magnificent personality that He is above all these hoaxes and will not be touched by the skeptics.
NJ
Post : 1175
The Jesus Family Tomb Controversy: How the Evidence Falls Short By Dillon Burroughs published in 2007 has reference to this NSC NET article in Page 123.
Just thought of sharing this bit of information.
roy george 
Post : 2001
The problem is we are christains ( issayi) having no global idol or a stone which we could assemble and worship it so sacride it non muslims could see it . if we know as issa is the son of marry why there is no biological father . and any body could test the kabba-stone as islam belive it was come from heaven and one should take round atleast 7 times once in his life time.
the languge of god is aramaic which is christain and no christains speak it or atleast the prayer which is teached by jesus should be the same language . now muslims tells us the language of jesus is arabic as quran says so quran may wrong .
my request is atleast the language of jesus should be known to a christain.
roy george says:
“the languge of god is aramaic which is christain and no christains speak it or atleast the prayer which is teached by jesus should be the same language . now muslims tells us the language of jesus is arabic as quran says so quran may wrong .”
Paarsurrey says:
Hi
Language of Jesus , Mary and his disciples should be Aramaic or Hebrew; we Muslims don’t claim it was Arabic.
If that is correct then why the language of Four Gospels is not Aramaic for Hebrew in original manuscripts. Please explain.
I love Jesus
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
John Mathew 
Post : 11937
Dear Paarsurrey:
Whoever writes the language of “God” is X, Y, or Z is most often a simple-minded idiot. For example, some Aramaic primacists and Assyrian nationalists like to claim this for Aramaic/Syriac.
The juvenile attitude of this claim (that “God” speaks Aramaic) is obvious. Stop to consider how an Old Testament Hebrew-speaking Jew would feel about this claim, back in the old days when he and his people were being subjugated by the Aramaic-speaking pagans of Mesopotamia who conquered Palestine!
That Jews were speaking Aramaic in Jesus’ time is *purely* due to the fact that the Jews were previously conquered by Aramaic-speaking pagans. It is like if Hindus, two thousand years into the future, were to claim that English is the language of God, because Swami Vivekananda and Gandhi spoke English.
Idiots!
Aramaic/Syriac are held in esteem by the Syriac Christians of Kerala because the core texts of our brand of Christianity were written in Syriac. Just like Muslims keep Arabic in esteem for the same reason. And, possibly, we descend, partially at least, from West Asian merchants who settled in Kerala to trade; the descendants kept Syriac as a special language for nostalgic reasons (the language of their forefathers). With time, these reasons evaporated, but the traditions were kept, for tradition sake.
And now, centuries later, we have fools running around making absurd claims, forgetting logic, and the simple test of Occam. But we may be able to excuse the Aramaic primacists, for the copious genocidal attacks they faced by Kurds, and other hostile neighbors, probably decimated their scholarly folk (e.g., monks) significantly. I don’t think we can offer the same excuse to Kerala Christians who make these claims, however.
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What you say about communion with Rome may have some merit on the surface. There does seem to be an annoying trend in which "uniate" Churches become diluted by Latinization. However, you claim this is d...
- M Thomas Antony wrote: "As far as I know, there is no church exists in the world who use Liturgy of Addai and Mari who has never been in communion with the Catholic Church."
You seem to be relying on the idea that one...
- RE: Church of the East v. Chaldean
Re: TKV's "Caldean uniates can’t be considered the rightful heir of the Nestorian Church."
This is clear nonsense. They are definitely heirs to the tradition, but not to the Chris...
- RE: Church of the East v. Chaldean
It seems there are two extreme factions here:
1. one side says that the Chaldeans are disqualified from the...
- Dear Thomas Antony,
(1) Are you saying that all branches of the original COE are in communion with Rome today / are Catholic? No I don’t think so. Well, it is quite obvious that there are more people in the Catholic...
- Dear Varghese Paul,
Addai &Mari Liturgy is not 2000 years old. The present original form was started using in 7 th century. All other things are short of proof. The oldest liturgy available today is the St....
- Dear Varghese Paul,
Re. the real apostolic succession from the East Syriac church.
The East Syriac church was united until 1552 when there was a rival Patriarchate was established by Mar Yohannan Sulagha VIII agai...
- Dear TKV
Here are few questions to you, regarding the Latin Vestments
1. When did the Saint Thomas Christians started using Latin Vestments ?
2. When was this practice changed among Malankara ?
3. When was this p...
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The Khaburis Manuscript is a copy of a second century New Testament, which was written in approximately 165 AD (internally documented as 100 years after the great persecution of the Christians by Ne...
- Dear TKV,
Addi & Mari liturgy is 2000 year old. Chaldean Church is only 500 year old. (Approx) How is Chaldeans better than Assyrians in terms of apostolic succession? Other than the fact that they are Catholic?...
- Dear Admin,
1)You also stated some Syro Malabar priests use Latin Capas. Where did you see this ? I know about few priests who uses Latin vestments.
Not few priests , The SMC priests used the latin cappas till...
- Dear Admin,
'''''''''''''''''16311 to 16314, you have repeated the same arguments again. You should know that by now, repetition of erroneous observation will not make it a fact.'''''''''''''
I am not repeating rat...
- About Latin Church
What I stated about Latin Church practice is correct. You can refer any book which details about the Second Vatican Council. These are known to those who has a bit of understanding about Latin Churc...
- 3. Other remarks about Taksa, Church construction, 2nd Vatican council etc
Church Construction
I have already given you a link of some churches. There are many new churches constructed properly. Apart from that, th...
- In 1886, the Padroado jurisdiction over whole Malabar was suppressed and Vicariates were created.There was also demand to have Bishops from Chaldea and many Petitions were sent for this purpose. Some of them are, Petitio...
- Dear Jeevan
In your recent comments – 16311 to 16314, you have repeated the same arguments again. You should know that by now, repetition of erroneous observation will not make it a fact. As I have stated multiple tim...
- BBC .
This gives us an idea as to how Byzantine Christians used to dress.Also,Islam dressing is heavily influenced by Or...
- Now you are taking another route to answer the points I raised in my post through the comparison of liturgical books used by romo-syrians with Chaldean original thaksa. Here you state that there is not much difference ex...
- Tharissapalli cheppedu.
Yes Tharishappalli cheppedu is not originated from Mar Jacob. have you ever read the book called JORNADA OF DOM ALEXIS DE MENEZES (of course you did a book review).Turn to page389 in which the...
How do you see the revival of Syriac in all Nasrani Churches ?
Traditions - Jun 12, 2007 23:28 - Read 2866 times, 1 so far today - 4 Comments
St.George- Geevarghese Sahada traditions and rituals among Nasranis
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Book Review - Jan 3, 2009 7:18 - - 21 Comments
Jornada of Dom Alexis de Menezes: A Portuguese account of the Sixteenth century Malabar edited by Dr. Pius Malekandathil
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